Mastering Productivity and Balance

Unlock the door to productivity without chaining yourself to the desk! Join me, Chris Anderson, on a riveting journey with the ever-inspiring John JD Munn as we traverse the landscape of entrepreneurial productivity and growth. We're here to map out the route to success, blending business acumen with the zest of a globe-trotter's spirit. John, with his tales of vibrant Valencia, brings a fresh perspective on how to streamline your priorities and amplify your output, allowing you to indulge in your wanderlust without letting your business empire crumble.

Ever felt the magnetic pull of every new trend on social media, only to end up lost in the digital wilderness? This episode has the compass you need. We dive into the perils of shiny object syndrome and how a laser-focused social media strategy can carve out your niche in the noisy online marketplace. With anecdotes from my own podcasting adventure, we lay out a blueprint to stay the course in a whirlwind of distractions, setting the stage for a business marathon designed for lasting victories.

Say goodbye to self-imposed shackles that transform entrepreneurial dreams into burnout nightmares. We dissect the art of aligning your business with your life's vision, ensuring that your venture remains a source of joy, not a draining obligation. Through practical tools like time tracking and energy audits, John and I guide you toward reclaiming the essence of your entrepreneurial spirit. Embrace the rhythm of work and rest as your new anthem for success, discovering how strategic pauses can propel you towards your goals with renewed vigor and sustainable satisfaction. Get set to infuse your business with the tranquility and productivity it deserves, right here on Elevate Media Podcast.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Welcome to the Elevate Media Podcast with your host, chris Anderson. In this show, chris and his guests will share their knowledge and experience on how to go from zero to successful entrepreneur. They have built their businesses from scratch and are now ready to give back to those who are just starting. Let's get ready to learn, grow and elevate our businesses. And now your host, chris Anderson.

Speaker 2: 0:24

Welcome back to another recording of the Elevate Media Podcast. I'm Chris Anderson, your host, and we're at a point in life, right, you're trying to build your business, you might got a family, you got friends, possibly, and it just seems like there's so much to do, right, how do we get it all done? And a lot of times, you know we're just spinning our wheels, we're busy but we're not productive. And so today we're going to be talking about productivity and how we can get more done in less time to really move that needle, to really elevate our lives, elevate our businesses. And so I'm excited today to have John JD Munn on the show today. Welcome, john, to the Elevate Media Podcast man.

Speaker 3: 1:02

Hey, chris. Yeah, I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for having me, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 1:05

So we've done a little bit before we hit record. You know John's quite a traveler. He's been around the world. He's just got back from Thailand. You know, john, where's kind of been your top location to travel to so far.

Speaker 3: 1:20

Oh man, that's a big question. I recently got back from kazakhstan and kazakhstan. The nature in kazakhstan was amazing. The the cities were a bit polluted, but the nature was was like being on the moon or something. Most of the time it's so good, but in terms of absolute favorite place, yeah, if I had to settle down somewhere, my choice would be valencia in spain. Okay, I love valencia. I ended up living there for two years, totally unintentionally. I was still intended to travel, but I just loved it so much it was great. What do you love?

Speaker 2: 1:56

about it so much sorry. What do you?

Speaker 3: 1:59

love about it so much. Oh, it's got everything. It's it's a great size city, so it's about a million million and a half people, so it's not one of these hyper cities like london or tokyo where it's so big it's hard to get around to see people. It's still small enough and there's bike lanes everywhere so you can cycle around. It's got the beach, it's got mountains and skiing less than an hour away, so you can just you can go on the beach in the morning, then you can go skiing in the afternoon or however you want, and the city is alive. There's loads going on, there's great architecture, it's got europe's largest park just so much good stuff and it's such a good hub to get everywhere else as well and kind of explore. But I love valencia. It's such a great place to live. There's so much, so much happening, so much life that sounds awesome.

Speaker 2: 2:47

Like a little bit of everything. You know. Anyone can find something good to do. That that's real cool. It's like it's funny.

Speaker 2: 2:51

I just went to fort worth down in texas here in the us and uh, you know I'm not a big city person. I don't really necessarily like being in the city. I like space and country and and nature, and I mean walking around fort worth. I didn't see really any homeless people. I didn't see which is unfortunate anywhere but like, like, I didn't see any homeless people walking around. I didn't see any trash. I didn't see any.

Speaker 2: 3:16

Like graffiti was like really clean and pretty and nice and you could go do things and people were out. It just was different and I was like, wow, this isn't actually that bad, like um, so yeah, I think it's that's cool when you have so much going on that you can just have access to and do and um, so, but that's that's really like and you know that's the crazy thing. So you travel quite a bit. You know people are probably like. You know, john, how in the world are you traveling all the time? You know money doesn't grow on trees, type of thing, so how do you have time to be able to travel so much?

Speaker 3: 3:47

I think it works with any kind of business, which is something that most people are usually skeptical of.

Speaker 3: 3:54

But ultimately, having more time in your business boils down to one thing, which is making sure you spend the time that you do have in the business doing the right things. And that sounds it's an oversimplification, but you don't have to work these 60 70 hour weeks if the 10 20 hours a week you spend in the business is spent doing the things that move the needle. I spend doing the things actually make a difference. So, yeah, I travel while I work, um, but a lot of the time if I go to a place and I am working at the same time as traveling not all the time, but sometimes when I do do that, um, I make sure that those few hours that I have in the day I spend doing the highest priority things, the things that make a difference, the things that move the business forward, and I keep those lessons even when I'm not traveling. But if you're going to travel, you need to make sure you're doing the right things, you're doing the things that make a difference.

Speaker 2: 4:49

Yeah, what are those things? What are the main things that move the needle in your business, that you focus?

Speaker 3: 4:54

on. Yeah, it's different for every business. What works for me and what I need to do is probably different to what you need to do, not only because it's going to be different businesses, but also with different people with different skills. So my strengths will be different to yours and also will be at different stages of the business. So I'm at a stage with my business where I've been doing this for years and it's mature and it's stable, and so the thing that I focus on now is more growth.

Speaker 3: 5:24

So, for me, a lot of the stuff that I'm doing that are the things that move the business forward are reviewing the systems I've already got in place and making tweaks and improving those systems, Because systems are like the engine of your business.

Speaker 3: 5:42

They're the thing that drives it forward, and a lot of people don't realize what systems they have and they have no idea what steps exist, and so for me within my business, a small tweak, like changing how often I ask for referrals, when changing the wording of my referral emails, makes a big difference in the results that I get back from that, and a lot of that stuff is automated. Yeah, so it's one of those things that, if I look at the system that I've got in place and say, okay, how can I improve this system here? That has an outsized impact because that engine keeps running even without my time there, but keeps running consistently long term as well. So what's that work that I do while I'm traveling that that really makes a difference? That moves the needle. It is improving the systems I've got within the business.

Speaker 2: 6:37

Yeah the systems are crucial, even if it's a lot of automated systems, or if you actually have people on your team having systems for people to follow. Uh, it's huge. And you know we're in the process here of just improving ours to streamline, to make those simpler, because I think a lot of times you know, with productivity and in the time that goes into business, we over, complicate things, we over again, okay, what we have to do and our systems and and if we can just kind of cut the fat, trim the fat, you know, lean and and all that I think you know. At least, what we found is it makes things a little bit simpler and you you do have, you don't have to spend as as much time, um, in the business as you used to.

Speaker 3: 7:24

Yeah, definitely. And, chris, you mentioned something right at the start of the podcast. You said I, john, would be able to help you do more in less time so you can do things and I can, and we can do that and kind of automate and do all that so you can do more in less time. But usually the key is not to do more in less time, is to do less in less time, and that sounds a bit counterintuitive. People think when they do less that it means that they'll get less out and that it just isn't the case. It's just as you're saying. If you trim the fat and you stop doing these things that don't really make a difference, you stop doing all these, these silly things that complicate it. You find that customers tend to be happier. More people sign up all these kinds of things and it's by doing less you actually get more. And it's counterintuitive at first, but when you spot the right things that you need to cut, everything else runs so much more smoothly so what?

Speaker 2: 8:23

what is the other one? When you know there's people out there that say you need to 10x everything, you need to 10x what you're doing, 10x your action, you know, 10x your outreach, is that not what you're meaning? Or is that you could still do that, but do it with less time, kind of thing?

Speaker 3: 8:40

Yeah, no, I personally I think that's terrible advice. You absolutely should 10x some things. Okay, yeah, um, but if you just 10x everything, you'll find that okay. A really good example of this is a lot of entrepreneurs when they start, um, they will do their own marketing. And when they do their own marketing, they'll have a facebook page, they'll have a twitter, they'll have linkedin, they'll have youtube, they'll have, uh, pinterest or whatever else.

Speaker 3: 9:11

And if you just 10x and everything, you look at those things, you say I'm going to do 10 times more of all of those. And it's like, yeah, but you've been running this, this twitter or whatever, and you've got four followers and no one cares. But you spend in 10 hours a week on twitter and 10 hours a week on linkedin and 10 hours a week on this thing. Where the hell have you got time to run the actual business? Like where, where's that coming from? And you're competing against corporations or other businesses that've got an entire team of people just to run the twitter account and you're one dude and you think you can compete with that. And it's like, right, rather than doing everything, yeah, throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks, let's find the one or two things actually have made a difference and actually do make a difference in your business, and let's 10x those. Let's do 10, 10 times more of those things that make a difference and 10 times less of everything else.

Speaker 2: 10:06

Yeah, I agree, I think you have to, especially when you start out. You have to pick the best path to focus on, to get good at. For me, when I started, it was the podcast, that was the path, and then we would put it Instagram, we would post things on there. So, social media-wise, that was my path, I should say when I started, Because, yeah, you know Instagram, we had postings on there. So, like social media wise, that was our or my path.

Speaker 2: 10:25

I should say when I started because, yeah, you can't do it all and it's like the, you know the, the parable, the story. You tried to chase two rabbits, you catch neither. When you're trying to chase five rabbits, you're definitely not going to catch any of them. So, yeah, definitely yeah, and they're bringing it down to like, okay, where do we really, where's our audience? Truly, at most, and let's get really good there and as we grow, then you can maybe have somebody help you on the other platforms or maybe you can allot more time to another platform to build it. But, yeah, I would agree, I think starting in one and just focusing there and getting super, super good at that, uh, is so important. We shiny object syndrome, right, we get. Oh, we need to add this, we need to do this.

Speaker 3: 11:07

You know what is your, what your take on the shiny object, object syndrome yeah, definitely, and I think people act impulsively and I think a lot of the time that comes from people reacting to things all the time. Yeah, that people wake up and what's the first thing a lot of people do? They grab their phone. Yep, and when they grab their phone, they're reading the news or they're checking their email or they're replying to customers or whatever it is, and it's you woke it up and the first thing you're doing is just reacting to the world. Yeah, like that's not putting you in a mindset where you're in control, right, like you're a business owner man, like you're in control of your time, you're in control of the business and you need to have that sense of control and you need to be making sure that you're using time and effort and resources and you're controlling where they go and they're going in the right places, yep, and so a lot of the time with this, the shiny object syndrome, I think, because people are such in a reactionary mindset all the time that they see a new thing and they go oh, I need to have that, because that's the thing that's going to make a difference, and so they react to it and that's a really important lesson.

Speaker 3: 12:17

That is one of the things I do with my clients is make sure that first thing we do in a day is proactive. I don't care if it only takes 10 minutes, just you're in control and you need to establish that sense of control over yourself and over your time. And then we can. We can look at these shiny object things from a clear mind and say, okay, are we in control of this? Are we actually wanting to do that? Why? Or are we just doing it because everyone else is doing it? Are we reacting to the market? We always want to be proactive, we want to be in control, we want to be moving in the direction that we know is the right direction.

Speaker 2: 12:54

Yeah, and I think you know I hear hermosi talk about it all the time.

Speaker 2: 12:58

You know people think they're they're constantly thinking in like the months, in the year time frame, but he's like we think in decades, like you got to play the big picture.

Speaker 2: 13:08

And so if you're playing a bigger picture, um, and I always, you know, kind of put the imagery of like running a race, running a marathon, things like that, like you're not going to sprint from the get-go on a long race because you're not going to make it, and so like you got to think, you know, big picture, what does that look like? What actions can I sustain over time to get results and get to where I want to go, without, you know quote, unquote burning out? Or yeah, because if you're, if you're trying to do, you know a certain sport and you're trying to get become pro at it, and you have, you know, 10 years and you start practicing that sport and then you know five years, or two to five years into, you're like, oh, this isn't working, I'm not a pro yet, maybe I could be a pro in this other sport and you're just practicing there like you're never going to make it because you're just resetting, basically, and starting all over again yeah, definitely, and people do that.

Speaker 3: 14:02

I think that thinking in decades side of thing is so important, especially for entrepreneurs just starting out. A lot of people don't realize that they end up building their own cage with the business. You find a lot of entrepreneurs that have got a business that is doing okay and they're miserable. You know they're making some money, which was their goal originally, but they've got no time to enjoy it. They're super stressed. They're working for clients that they hate all these kinds of things and it's it becomes a prison and they can't leave. They can't quit the business because it's their baby and they feel responsible and they've got people that rely on them and all these things. And it's because they didn't. They built the business wrong. They built the business incorrectly, they didn't think ahead and what a lot of people do is when they first start business, they've only ever been an employee before. You know they've had a job before. They've done these things. Maybe they've ran one or two businesses in the past like small things, but they've never been a real business owner before.

Speaker 3: 15:07

They might not even know proper business owners and it's very hard to build something that you don't know what it looks like yeah so what people end up building is they make their role as the business owner, they make their role as the entrepreneur into something that looks like a job. And, as a business owner, your what, your tasks, what you're supposed to do, is quite different to what a normal employee usually should be doing. But people don't realize that. So they start their business and they work nine to five and they do employee type tasks. They reply to these emails, they do this, they do that kind of thing and they react to everything and they wait for people to tell them what they're supposed to do.

Speaker 3: 15:50

And what they've done is they've built themselves a job, and they've built themselves a job which probably pays less than another job that they could have got, and they've got less freedom as well, because they're applying and working with all these clients that they hate. And it's from the start. They didn't think ahead, they didn't think in decades and they didn't have somebody that has done it before. They can say, hey, you don't need to do it like that, or hey, this is what business owners do. You know, they don't do that thing, they do this instead, and it's like oh, yeah, of course, but because they've not seen it before, they don't know how to do it like that.

Speaker 2: 16:26

So I think decade vision and building towards that is so important yeah, and so, with that, what people are trying to think in decades now they're listening to you talk, they're they're kind of hearing what you're saying. What are some things that they can do right now to start choosing? What are the productive activities and what's not needed? How can they kind of flesh that out?

Speaker 3: 16:51

Yeah, there are two great exercises for this that I really believe in. The first one is it takes a bit of commitment but is by far the highest return on investment activity I've seen anybody do in their business. Which is is simple. It's track your time. If you know what you've spent your time doing in the business, you can then say, hey, I did this thing and I got this thing back. Was that worth it? Was that a good investment of my time?

Speaker 3: 17:24

And, as as any business owner, your biggest cost is your time, and most people don't realize how much time they spend on things. People are terrible at estimating how long a task takes, and so if you're not tracking your biggest cost, how on earth do you think you can assess whether that was worthwhile or not? You don't know what the return on investment is. So, from a very basic business point of view, track your time, know what you spend that time doing and then assess okay, was that worth doing? Should I do it again? Should I do more of that or less of that? And I use a free tool called toggle to track my time. So that's number one track your time. That's the first exercise.

Speaker 3: 18:10

The second thing is a lot of people don't realize that their time and their energy are linked. And I don't mean that hippie thing of chakra and energy and all that kind of stuff. If you're into that, cool, not for me, whatever. Yeah, um, I mean how it makes you feel after you complete the task, because people know the phrase time flies when you're having fun, right, but time also drags when you're doing things that you hate. You're doing this task and you've only been doing it for an hour, but it feels like you've been there for four hours and you just can't do it anymore. And we've all got a limited pool of energy that we can draw from in order to run the business. And if you're doing lots of tasks that they might be worthwhile, they might give you a return on investment, but they drain your energy energy too much. They're the kinds of things that you want to get rid of as quickly as possible outsource, automate or sometimes just drop.

Speaker 3: 19:03

Yeah, but you want to be doing the things that you feel energized by doing, because you'll work on the business more, you'll do more within the business and it won't feel like work. You'll be excited to wake up and to actually do the work and the exercise that we usually do for that with me and my clients is we take our calendar and after we've tracked our time and all that kind of thing, we take the calendar and we just highlight activities. Did this take energy or did this give energy? That's it. Did I feel more energized after doing this or less energized? And we go through and we do an energy audit and we just check and say, okay, these things we we like doing, we should do more of and they have a return on investment. We can see that from our time tracking these other things. They have a return on investment but we hate. So let's think about how can we get rid of those. So those two exercises combined together, a really powerful way to know what you should be working on and what you shouldn't be working on.

Speaker 2: 20:03

Yeah, those are. I mean, that's perfect because you know. If you don't know where your time is going, it's just like you know why am I getting fat? Well, try calories, see where you see what you're eating, see what's causing that to happen. You know, and maybe you're not exercising. So same kind of thing with your time is knowing where it goes, right, like you said. And then, I think, knowing. I think it's beautiful how you said it. It's like you know the energy that comes after. You know, does it, you know the lady, does the cleaning? Does it bring you joy or do you get rid of it? Do you keep it? Yeah, and like, and that's you know.

Speaker 2: 20:40

With my business I got to the point. I was like this is I. I realized the negative energy I was coming from, some of the aspects of it. I was like I, I can't, I don't want to continue doing these sayings. Plus, I know people are better at these aspects than I am too, so it's a no-brainer. Why not bring someone on to do what I dislike? And they're going to be better anyways, and they're going to be better anyways, and they're going to. That's what they enjoy doing. So it makes it would make perfect sense to to outsource and to bring people on the team in those areas first.

Speaker 2: 21:05

But you don't know that if you don't like actually think about it, you can just, yeah, my god, no energy. But what is causing you to have that energy drain? Uh, it's not everything. Yeah, people don't consider that anywhere near enough. Yeah, yeah, once you think about it, like you'll realize, oh, that's what you know is is draining the energy. And and then you realize, oh well, this other thing actually gives me more energy. So I need to do more of that. And if you just actually like take a step back and look at that and think through, those moments are in the moment that's going to really help you put people in place to to get you to the next level yeah, 100.

Speaker 3: 21:42

And one of the other things as well is people don't take the time to rest and recharge with stuff and they don't think about a lot of people default into activities that they've always done right, so they do that marketing there because they've always done it there, or they watch tv at night because they've always watched tv at night, or whatever, but they don't think about okay, after I've watched tv, do I feel more rested, do I feel more recharged? Like, rested and recharging are different things, but what is it that makes me feel most rested? Yeah, what makes me feel most recharged? And for me, I love playing sport and so that's something that, although it doesn't help me feel rested, it helps me feel recharged and I'm ready to go again. So I like doing sport in the morning because then I'm pumped, I'm ready to work.

Speaker 3: 22:28

You know, yeah, but if I was just playing a game or watching tv because I'm recharging, like I wouldn't feel as recharged after an hour of watching tv as I would after an hour of doing sport. You know, yeah, and it's. It's another one of those things. I just looked at the time that I was spending and looked at how I felt before and after and thought about it I was like, yeah, I should, should do way more of that stuff and I should do way less of this other thing you know like, and just be intentional, be intentional with my time.

Speaker 2: 22:58

Yeah, and I think that's a crucial one too.

Speaker 2: 23:05

Again kind of goes back to the different things we hear about building a business like 10X, everything you know, you put in the 80 hours and you know, I think you know, for my perspective, I think there's a time for it, depending on where you are in business and what life is calling you for.

Speaker 2: 23:16

But you can't sustain that of where you are in business and what life is calling you for, but you can't sustain that.

Speaker 2: 23:19

And I think the rest piece, the rest and recharge piece, is one that gets glossed over and pushed to the side because it doesn't seem like there's a big ROI, until your body says, yeah, you haven't rested and recharged for a while, I'm going to shut down on you and you get sick or you get injured or you just feel terrible, and so I think making that part of your you know, your routine is so critical and and like it, like you said, it looks different for everybody. It could be, you know, exercise, it could be sport, it could be whatever it is, but you got to know what actually gets you rest and actually recharges you and implement that. Um, you know, because I I used to be under the mindset, just how I was thinking, like if I take an hour break, everything will collapse, it will all go down, and like now I'm like, if I take an hour break and it all goes down, I've done something completely wrong, oh yeah yeah, 100, and it's with all those things.

Speaker 3: 24:14

If you don't take a break, your body will take it for you, yeah, and it will take five times, six times longer, ten times longer if your body takes it for you than if you just did it yourself, and you'll feel worse about it as well. You know, yeah and it's yeah. Having that mindset of if I stop, everything's going to collapse is something is terribly wrong here. Like we need to fix this first, and I totally agree with you that with me, with my clients, my own businesses as well, like they, everyone we get everyone to work less than 20 hours a week. Okay, that's a core thing. So I currently average about 12 hours a week on my businesses. My clients average normally between 10 and 20 hours a week.

Speaker 3: 25:03

However, I totally agree with you that there is times when you might have to pull a 60-hour week, and that's normal. It's just that shouldn't be the norm. If you work in 60 hours, it shouldn't be because some terrible thing has happened and now you have to fix it. It should normally be because you're super pumped at the minute and you're entering what I like to call a spring within your business, like a growth period, and you're pumped and you know what you're doing. You're building something worthwhile. You're not just doing something that doesn't really move the business. It's just urgent work that somebody else is throwing on your desk. It's stuff that is like, yeah, I'm going to do 60 hours on this and things are going to be fucking great after that. You know it's gonna be so much better after that. And but, being intentional about those 60 hours that you spent, you know that shouldn't be the norm and it shouldn't be accidental.

Speaker 2: 25:51

It should be something that you're in control of yeah, and a big thing I try to do too with it, because there's, I mean, there are times that you know you just you have those things that happen or you're you're in a sprint or a spring and um, you know, trying to find the harmony like, trying to have the joy with it, the excitement, like the fun with it, because then it doesn't really seem like you spent 60 hours on it, because it's just kind of like you just say it, like it just happened, like it was just part of life, it was part of, you know, your day and week and it's just like, oh, I feel great, like that was awesome, like you know, draining 60 hours, like you're saying, and they're trying to have that harmony where you know you can give yourself grace, you can. I can go take my kids to the zoo, if I want, for a couple hours, like, like, but still having the grind quote, unquote the grind in that week that time frame.

Speaker 3: 26:45

Um, it's a different, it's different.

Speaker 3: 26:46

I think, if you can, if you can have that harmony somehow, yeah, I agree, and I again, I think it comes back to that sense of control and it's if I'm working 60 hours on something that I'm enjoying and I might compress it in like one weekend, is crazy. I don't really sleep and I that I'm enjoying and I might compress it in like one weekend is crazy. I don't really sleep and I just I do all this stuff and at the end I'm like that was great, let's do that again, you know. But it's reverting to that sense of you know, I'm in control of this, I'm I'm going to do the things that make a difference in the business and a lot of the time that means having a relatively chill week and moving the needle forward consistently, and sometimes that means just going all out, going in for it. Yeah, but if you're 100, 100 the time, like things are going to crash and burn it, it ain't gonna work, right, work yeah, and I always use the like exercise or things like that to kind of give it a picture.

Speaker 2: 27:35

Because if you're, if you go and you're trying to, you know, get stronger, you're trying to build muscle, whatever it is. But if you're trying to build muscle and you're going like 200 all the time, you're maxing out, all this time, you're pushing every single workout like heavy, heavy weights, every single workout and continuously trying to increase that, you're going to get hurt. That's why I mean body builds. They go through different stages of using lighter weight, of using, you know, body weight, of of them do doing the max or the or the heavy weight. You don't do that consistently and they still have recovery times built in as well, because you can't go full throttle, full, full out 24-7, 365,. It just can't happen. And that's why they build those rest weeks, rest days in your workout schedule so you don't over-hurry yourself.

Speaker 2: 28:26

I mean there are things physically that rhabdomyolysis I used to be an athletic trainer that if you work too hard for too long, your body will start to eat itself, your muscles will break down and you'll your kidneys and stuff will start failing because you push too hard for too long and so like yeah, this is same in business, same in life, like you have to know when to push hard and when to like kind of get uncomfortable, quote-unquote, but then know when to just be consistent, consistently have the right action and then know when to just be consistent, consistently have right action and then know when the recovery and rest has to happen, like it's.

Speaker 3: 29:00

It's a beautiful dance really, you know, uh, business and life in general yeah, and a bit like working out in the gym having a spotter or a personal coach or something. Having somebody external they can say, hey, your form here looks a bit off. Yeah, no, like, if we just correct that up a little bit, it makes a big difference. And having somebody that can say, hey, like, maybe it's it's time for a rest period or it's time to really go for it, or we can push like we can, we can add that bit of weight, we can do this little bit extra, let's push, let's do it. Having that external pair of eyes to help you do that makes a huge difference, makes it easier.

Speaker 2: 29:39

It's crucial to to reach in peak performance yeah, and another to tie right into that is, you know, being in a gym where you have other people trying to do the same thing in their own time frame and their own levels, but supporting one another.

Speaker 3: 29:54

It's such a crucial thing too yeah, 100% that sense of community and you see other people and it raises you to a next level as well. You know, you see, you see you get ideas. But also you're like, hey, man, that that guy's crushing it, like I can crush it too. You know, it becomes more real absolutely yeah, and it's it has been.

Speaker 2: 30:14

This been a phenomenal conversation. I think a lot of people can take things away and start kind of breaking down what they have going on right now. They're wondering where's their time going, where's their energy being drained or being sustained, and uh so, john, I appreciated uh everything you said during this episode. I appreciate you being on and sharing uh your time uh with us to be on here. So, uh, if you want to connect with you, find out more about you, uh your coaching, where's the best place for them to connect with you?

Speaker 3: 30:44

yeah, so you can find links to everything, including free resources and everything to get you started, on my website, which is johnjdmuncom. So, so I'm sure you'll include a link in the show notes. I'll send everything over. So, yeah, you can find it on my website, johnjdmuncom. I'm on LinkedIn, which is forward slash johnjdmun, and I do a weekly newsletter as well, which is free, which is my best productivity tips and it's always actionable, so something you can implement and actually do this week. It'll make a difference, and that's called Work Smart Wednesday. You can find that on Google or on my website.

Speaker 2: 31:23

Awesome, yeah, everyone. If you're interested more you want to connect with them, reach out, follow that link, get connected with John and just continue to learn from him on how to be better with productivity not just busy, but productive and efficient. So, john, again, thanks so much for being on the Elevate Media Podcast today. It's been a pleasure.

Speaker 3: 31:42

Thanks for having me, Chris.

Speaker 1: 31:44

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