The Elevate Media Podcast
Join Chris as he chats with successful business owners and entrepreneurs and shares his own lessons and successes of building Elevate Media Group.
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The Elevate Media Podcast
Unexpected Mentors and Surprising Lessons
What if breaking free from societal myths about risk-taking could unlock your entrepreneurial potential? Join me, along with serial entrepreneur and tech innovator Jason Schappert, as we uncover the secrets to building a wealth mindset on the Elevate Media Podcast. Through engaging personal stories, including my own marathon journey, we explore the power of self-belief and the importance of taking small, steady steps toward success. It's about understanding that success is not a sprint but a marathon, where persistence and a consistent pace are key.
In our exploration of connection, we emphasize the critical role of building a diverse and inspiring network. I share unexpected mentorship experiences, like the wisdom gained from a successful dairy farmer, and my transformative pivot from aspiring military aviator to revolutionizing aviation education online. Discover how embracing technology, despite initial skepticism, can catapult your business and inspire peers. This chapter is about recognizing that the most valuable mentors and connections often come from surprising places.
Finally, we shift focus to the art of balancing criticism with self-belief, and the transformative power of positive affirmations. Learn how to harness words for personal growth and maintain a balanced outlook that acknowledges reality without succumbing to negativity. With insights from Jim Rohn and Napoleon Hill, we highlight the lasting impact of positive affirmations and the necessity of applying knowledge. Tune in for an inspiring exchange on fostering confidence in ourselves and those around us, shaping a brighter, more successful future.
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Welcome to the Elevate Media Podcast with your host, chris Anderson. In this show, chris and his guests will share their knowledge and experience on how to go from zero to successful entrepreneur. They have built their businesses from scratch and are now ready to give back to those who are just starting. Let's get ready to learn, grow and elevate our businesses. And now your host, chris Anderson.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to another recording of the Elevate Media Podcast. I'm Chris Anderson, your host, and today we're going to be diving into a topic that sometimes can be overlooked, not thought about, but is super important on your journey to build your business as an entrepreneur, and that is building a wealth mindset. So if you want to build wealth, if you want to have that rock-solid wealth mindset, if you want to succeed wealth, if you want to have that rock solid wealth mindset, you want to succeed when things get hard. This episode's for you, and I brought in an expert who can talk to this topic. Jason Shappert is on the show today. He is a serial entrepreneur, he's an investor and he's a tech innovator. He's got some cool things going on. He's done some really great things. I found out in the green room with aviation online, excited to dive into that a little bit. But, jason, welcome to the Elevate Media Podcast, thanks.
Speaker 3:Chris, super excited to be here and chat with you beforehand. Really excited for this episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited to dive into it, especially like getting a little bit more of your backstory. We're here recording everything, so you know. Wealth mindset yes, that could look like anything, but from your perspective, what is, what is a wealth mindset? Even? Look like let's dive right into it there. I'm going to go back, you'll hear me talk about my parents a lot.
Speaker 3:I grew up in an entrepreneurial family and my dad always instilled in me Jason, believing in you starts with you. Right, no matter what they say. And trust me, a lot of people on your business journey are going to talk you down, talk you out of it. You know you need to save for a rainy day, you need to build a security. You need to do that. Don't take risks. You could get hurt. Right, and those are the myths and the things we have to break in order to take that step.
Speaker 3:And you know some people call it a leap, and I understand. For some of some people, isn't this it? And I understand. For some people listening to this, it may be a leap. You're leaving a great career in IT or whatever it is, and this is my dream. I always wanted to start this business or whatever it is. But while it could be a leap, for many of you, sometimes it's just putting one foot in front of the other. Jim Collins talks about in the book Good to Great, about the million-mile march. People want to try to run across the United States. He says, no, you don't do that. You go 10 miles every single day and you do it at a steady pace. Rain, snow, it hot, cold it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:10 miles every single day, one foot in front of the other. Yeah, I love that and you know it's crazy. So at the time of recording this, just a couple days ago, this weekend, I ran a marathonic. Uh, good for you. You, I've run multiple.
Speaker 2:You know, my wife says it's going to catch up to me because I don't train for it. Right, and this isn't to say again that I'm some great athlete, because, you know, my pace was average. But to the point where you just said, like I ran the whole thing, I stayed a consistent pace and I finished, you know, actually, my PR, which is crazy for not training at 33. I think I am right now I lose track of age. But like, right, that's what it is, that's you know entrepreneurship is.
Speaker 2:Is, you know, taking that step for a? You know, I haven't trained. I'm still going to do this one step at a time. And I kept telling myself just one more step, yes, one more step, I'm one more step, I'm one more step closer. I'm one more step closer because at times it sucks, like my legs are cramped, like, you know, my feet were hurting. Uh, it's like, just one more step, you're one step closer. And that's what I kind of ran through my mind during the race uh, you know, and I found myself dealing with business too is like hey, you learned one one new thing today, you got one. Yes, more, no, today you got. Hey, you did get a new client today. Hey, one more person on your team, you know, and just one step closer to the ultimate goal, you're you're so, you're spot on.
Speaker 3:And to use another sports analogy, um, in the game of baseball, of course you know if you want to make espn, you got to hit the home runs and everything else, but at the end of the day, what wins baseball is base hits yeah singles, maybe the occasional double, but base hits and just moving around the bases, single by single, all the way around. Yes, the home runs make the news and they do that in business, they do that on ESPN, they do that everywhere. At the end of the day, base hits win the game?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, and I think you know to build that. You know wealth mindset. It just it takes time it takes. You know to build that. You know wealth mindset it just it takes time it takes. You know what you're feeding yourself, because you mentioned you know you have people in your lives who are you have good intentions, right? Sure, for example, my parents. I love my parents. I have great parents. I'm super blessed for how they, you know, raised me and how they support me, but there's still a little of like you know, be careful kind of thing. Yeah, crypto Recently we're hearing about crypto because of, you know, trump taking over off, right, and so I've invested a little bit more. I've been following it. I did as well yesterday, yeah, yeah, and they're like, oh, just be careful because it could go down. I'm like, yeah, but you know it could go way up, Right, and stuff like that allowing to sink into your mind as well, right?
Speaker 3:Well, and it's all about who you surround yourself with, and you and I are of a similar age, so I would imagine most of your friends are probably older than you, right? If people are walking the walk and have the successful businesses and everything else, most of your friends are probably older than you because they've been there, done that, you know a lot of our friends in their thirties. Or you go back to some of your high school buddies like I don't even go to my high school reunions because it's like, respectfully, like I don't, I don't want to go back there, um, you know, and everything else. Like you have to surround yourself around the right people and make sure you're consuming the right things. You know this.
Speaker 3:This wealth mindset for me started very, very early. So I alluded to um. I grew up. My parents were entrepreneurs. They're actually still to this day in the pest control business. So I grew up at 12 years old, killing bugs with dad and we grew up a pest control worker's salary, right, yes, he was a business owner, but for the early, early years he kind of just made himself a job. So we were like when we first moved to Florida.
Speaker 3:We lived in a motel for the first few months, like we when I say broke, we were broke, we worked our way up a little bit. But you know, the greatest thing I learned doing pest control with dad is dad had very wealthy clients and he had very we'll just say stuck in poverty, right the the trap, the rat race of poverty type clients. And I remember remember walking in these in my mind mansions I'm thinking I want this. So in my mind, take a note and say, okay, what do wealthy people do differently? I would go in their office and go oh, they've got books everywhere.
Speaker 3:They have very few TVs and a ton of books. I'm like, okay, I'm taking note of this and again, this is 20 years ago, right, um, okay, so clearly to be successful I gotta read a lot of books. So this is back. Like you know, sony walkman days on on cassette, and then later cds and stuff that would skip. I would go to the public library. I'm listening to zig ziglar, jim rohn, john maxwell, like this kind of stuff on cassette, c CD, tony Robbins, and just I was that weird 12, 13, 14 year old kid when everyone else is playing video games and I'm doing Tony Robbins' personal power. It's like Jason's a little strange, but sometimes that's what it takes. You've got to be a little bit different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and it's. It can be hard because I know you mentioned surrounding yourself with people and I have some friends, you know. You know bible study group at church, which is sure I love those guys, they're awesome, um support. But as far as business goes, like I always have very few friends who are either where I'm at or where I want to get to. I have a couple my brother's, a great mentor which is awesome to have, but there's very few. No man, I did it again. I don't know why this does this. It blows up and losses me for a second. This happened last time too. I talk with my hands too much.
Speaker 3:You're on a Mac, I assume.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, there you go, see if I can come back there you go, You're you're.
Speaker 3:No, I'm here.
Speaker 2:Do you see me?
Speaker 3:No, I don't see you, that's all black Okay, yeah. I need to get rid of this stupid. If you're on Apple, I need to do that.
Speaker 2:Last time this happened it kicked us off and we came back in the room and it was still recording. So hopefully I don't understand. No problem. We're only eight minutes in. If not, it's all good. Where would that be?
Speaker 3:I'm going to make sure I turned mine off here. I'm telling you to turn it off, make sure here.
Speaker 2:If you I'm gonna leave and come back, it should all hang out here and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3:If not, I'll just jump right back in, okay cool, nice, good job, thanks, handle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to figure out where that is to turn off, but I don't know where we left off.
Speaker 3:But um, you're talking about people, you're your brother yeah etc.
Speaker 2:Friends okay, yeah, so you know there's very few that I really have that you know I'm close with that are where I'm at in business or where I want to go. You know my brother super grateful to have him close, um, but other than that, I kind of am learning or connecting with people from afar. You know one this podcast is a great thing, you know, connecting people like you and learning and and things like that. But building relationships, um, outside of that I feel like it's a little difficult. But I think what you mentioned about like listening, you know those CDs back in the day now we can listen to podcasts and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:I think that's one of the best ways we can do it and we can't actually get a relationship with those people that we want to be around. Yeah, well said and.
Speaker 3:I've always been taught and tried to practice. You really need three types of friends. Right, you need the people that you are working to pull higher, and that may be some of the guys in your Bible study group, like you mentioned, or whatever it is. You need friends on your level. And then you need the people also pulling you higher. Right, it's so easy to find the ones that you want to pull higher, and oftentimes it's even easy to find those that pull you higher. Right, you find these people like oh, I want to be mentored by them, or whatever that may be. But finding the ones on your level, that can be challenging sometimes, and sometimes it takes a little bit of humility as well with that. So it is a challenge, and then it has to be purposeful, right?
Speaker 3:Yes, I went through a season where I just drowned myself in books and everything else, but at the end of the day, we still have that connection. You still have to have that back and forth and don't discount just because somebody is in a totally different industry. One of my greatest mentors is actually a very successful dairy farmer. Believe it or not, you think okay, jason, you're building a, you sold an aviation business, you're building a FinTech, and you get mentored by a dairy farmer and you're like, yeah, yeah, guy's been through three IPOs like very, very successful from that standpoint. So don't always look at what this person does or certainly not how they dress or anything like that as to the level of their success, because you'll find some of the most successful people you know are the ones in the hoodie and everything else that you wouldn't even realize.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it, just it takes a lot more effort to find those people.
Speaker 2:Um which you know you have to balance time and family and things to be able to do that. So but I think it's, it's definitely, and you know social media can help us, I think, mitigate some of that. Finding those people, which is great and you know, yeah, it is one, it makes it more fun because you have someone that you can actually talk to um and bounce ideas off of or, when it's a struggle, like they can help motivate you kind of thing or lift you up, whatever it might be. So I think you know part of that wealth mindset is is the people feed into you. It's super important to find those Um and you mentioned right there, you know, when we kind of mentioned it, alluded to it at the beginning was your aviation, uh, business career, um, dive into what, what was that exactly? And I'd love to kind of break down a little bit of your journey and how you overcame to get to Wealth Mindset, because I know it wasn't easy, sure.
Speaker 3:Sure, so it was aviation education. We were the largest provider of aviation test preparation for pilots. From you want to fly drones, you want to be an airline pilot one day. From you want to fly a drone, so you want to be an airline pilot one day. We created the books, the videos, the curriculum, sold it B2C, sold it B2B as well to large aviation colleges everything else, and very, very blessed. I'm a flight instructor, as is my wife.
Speaker 1:We love teaching and everything else pertains to that, but my dream actually was to be a military aviator.
Speaker 3:I wanted to fly fast. You can't watch Top Gun and not think good about signing up for the Navy or the Air Force. So I wanted to fly the F-15E for the Air Force. But I know we're sitting down now but if we met in person I'm actually too tall to them, six foot four, and they have a. They have a height cutoff to fly any of the fun stuff. I said okay, so that kind of killed those dreams. Um, I'll go be an airline pilot. I thought you know I don't, while travel sounds fun, I was, I was married, young and everything else and just thought that's not a lifestyle for a conducive marriage and everything else always gone, always, always somewhere different. I love this teaching thing. How can I make money teaching? And this is back listen to the same tony robbins, zig ziglar, jim Rohn teaching. You have to get leverage in your business and I'm thinking okay, leverage in my business like it's Jason and an airplane Like how do I get leverage?
Speaker 3:I guess leverage is more flight instructors, more airplanes. I'm thinking in my head I'm 18, 19 years old at this point, when this is a capital intensive business no, bank's going to give me a loan or anything like that, you know, at 18 years old to go do this sort of stuff.
Speaker 3:So about this time, um, this little company called GoPro, uh, was spooling up, and another little company called YouTube was fresh out of the garage, starting to gain some momentum not owned by Google just yet and I put those two things together and said, huh, I wonder if I can put these GoPro cameras in my airplane and act as if Chris was sitting next to me, like so, if you were doing a lesson with me, you would actually sit in the pilot seat, in the left seat. I sit in the co-pilot seat, the right seat, so I began sitting in the right seat, leaving the left seat empty, which looks a little strange when you're when you're flying around. Yeah, but I put the cameras in the left seat as if Chris was there at iView, filmed everything and began to upload them to YouTube, realized we were kind of onto something, began to put those videos behind a paywall and it really kind of grew from there and that became the leverage, instead of buying more airplanes, hiring more people, using the power of the internet. And back to the mindset thing, I told people I'm going to teach people to fly on the internet, and I got laughed at, I got kicked out of airports, I got all sorts of things that people said to me that that just cannot be done, and there were some times where I thought I'd believe in them. But you have to believe in your vision, believe in your dreams.
Speaker 3:Now, to that point, you can't also just, you know, block out all negativity and say no, no, I'm never, I'm never thinking about any of this, like you do have to. Is there any truth to what this person is saying? Is how I approach that and, by the way, that is true of even our social media comments and I know you deal with this every day too like you get that hater, that mean person or whatever it is, and I I say, okay, we'll look at this and say before I remove this one or ban this person. Is there any truth to what this person is saying? Like, can I actually learn and get better at this of all the no's I heard in this pitch? For you know, if you're pitching VC money right now, you're pitching a bet. Whatever you're trying to do, do in your business. Whoever's listening of all the no's you've heard, what can I be learning from those? To get better and sharper and don't stop believing in yourself? But how can I fine-tune my vision based on this feedback?
Speaker 2:yeah, and I think that's great because you know it's almost like that toxic uh positivity where it's all, everything's good, everything's not trying rainbow, but the reality is there's negative, there is, you know, kickback, there is pushback, things like that, and to be able to take it with a grain of salt, kind of thing. And I think that's a super important piece because you know, along the journey it is, it's not easy. You're going to get some of that. You're going to get it from yourself, like, yeah, is this what I should be doing? Should I continue? Like and you have to be able to weigh that out and keep moving forward. So what were those moments like for you? Cause I know it wasn't, you know, overnight success, absolutely not. Like what was? What were those hard times, some of the hard times you had to deal with?
Speaker 3:Wow, uh, one one in particular. So I was still teaching students, like if you came to me to learn to fly, I was still taking on students while trying to build this Internet thing on the side. So it was kind of like I was half in on each of them, essentially with that Recently married young family trying to make things happen. And I remember going to leave the house one day, uh, to go to a flight lesson, and there was a tow truck at the end of my driveway. I thought, huh, unfortunately I knew exactly why he was there. He was waiting for me to open the garage because I was so behind on car payments. And I remember like thinking I need to go to work to make money to make this car payment. Uh, I'm staying up crazy hours working on this internet thing that I think might work one day and this tow truck's blocking my way out there. I remember sneaking through my backyard, walking about a mile to my mom's house and borrowing mom's car so I could still go to the airport. Later that week the sheriff put a foreclosure notice on the house. We had 30 days to figure this stuff out. And then again, to add insult to injury, that exact same plane. Uh, again this I didn't give you the whole story.
Speaker 3:I bought this plane for ten thousand dollars, oh, wow. So picture what a ten thousand dollar airplane looks like, chris, um, even even 16, 17 years, it was still a really, really small, really really. My wife calls it a yucky airplane. Like I live in Florida and the airplane's from 1975, has the original cloth seats. Like imagine how much sweat is in those cloth seats, right? So I'm in this airplane I'm actually going to film a video for this internet thing. I'm trying to start up and I ended up having an engine failure on takeoff. I lost one of the cylinders, oil spilled all over. The airplane came back around, had a successful landing, but the plane's smoking. There's oil everywhere. I'm like what's going on? Tow truck was just in the driveway a few days earlier for closure nose and I just cried Like I did. I mean, at this point I'm maybe 19, 20 years old I don't know how old I am at this point and I'm thinking like this is my only means of making money, really. And um, you know, the funny thing about that is it was actually very uh, it was great in a in a weird way. So I know you've read the book Think and Grow Rich, and in Think and Grow Rich, napoleon Hill talks about burning the boats, like get rid of all chances of escape. You got to go all in on this thing and that was my burning the boats moment.
Speaker 3:I went over to a mechanic who was based at the field. I sold him that $10,000 airplane for I don't know $5,000 because it was broken. I was able to catch up on the mortgage, catch up on car payments, buy myself a little bit of runway, but now I'm a flight instructor with no airplane. I had one option, which was to make this internet flight instruction thing work out, and I remember I never drank coffee until that point. Now I'm like hooked on coffee, but I remember just these late nights, like hour days, drinking coffee at eight o'clock at night when you shouldn't be writing books, creating curriculum, making videos, one man band just trying to figure this stuff out. And honestly, chris, if it wasn't for that engine failure, I might still be, you know, one leg on either side of the street. Yeah, um, sometimes you have to have that burn the boats moment, like stop playing half in this game and half in that game and just go for it. Um, and that was that.
Speaker 2:It was scary, oh yeah oh, we made it work and I think you're being transparent and sharing that, because you know we don't see a lot of that online or specifically, we don't see a lot of that online specifically. We don't see the nitty-gritty, we don't see the, the negative, uh, we only see the good, which you know to a point, people don't really care about our low points, they only want to see the good they want to see what's on stage.
Speaker 3:They forget that it's they. It's funny. I just um our our daughter's 10 now. I just flew her to new york for a broadway performance and I was explaining to her that what you see on stage is so beautiful and so perfect, but behind the stage is absolute chaos. There's people running around, they're changing their clothes as they're running, they're bringing in new props, like it's chaos. Yeah, and you're exactly right. We look on Instagram and X and all this stuff and just see this beautiful facade, because that's what it really is on social media, but behind the scenes is absolute chaos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think it gets that way, no matter what level. It just looks different Totally. And you know, my story kind of is the same I had to burn the boats back in 2020. You know, like faith is a big part of my story and journey and stuff. I just felt God calling me to trust him and quit my job. Wow, I love that, yes, and so I did Right when COVID hit. So I quit my job, so no income and I was making more out of it between my wife and I, and then COVID hits. And I know I don't have a marketing or business background. In school I was an athletic trainer and it was just we we're gonna make this work like, am I going back? Yes, going back. And you know it's been so many ups and downs and and you know we're gonna have money this month, we're gonna have like how are we gonna do that?
Speaker 2:how are we gonna pay? You know the, the debts we have, kind of same same situation, and you know just, it's just a crazy journey, something that, looking back, even now, you know, because Elevate's just three years old, like sure, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I know there's more turbulence, the more ups and downs that come. Still, yes, but I think it being able to learn from those past moments help you approach those future ones a little bit differently.
Speaker 3:I hope you approach those future ones a little bit differently. You're exactly right. And to go back to Jim Rohn, listen to those cassette tapes. Jim Rohn always say knowledge isn't power, it's potential power. So it's one thing to have all that knowledge, but are you willing to apply it and do you know how to apply it? To give people advice, we all know that person who can tell you what's wrong with your marriage, but their marriage is a mess, right. Or tell you how to run your finances, but you look at them and go, your finances are a wreck. Why would I listen to you? Right back that mentor conversation. You've got to find the people that are not just spouting the advice out, but they are a walking, living, breathing example of it themselves as well. Knowledge isn't power, it's just potential power. Yeah, absolutely so. Do you? Do you do the whole um potential?
Speaker 2:power? Yeah, absolutely so. Do you? Do you do the whole positive affirmation thing in the mirror? Do you do that kind of thing? Or is there just kind of like a day like hey, Jason, like you got, you got this man, I still I still, to this day, repeat what my dad said to me when I was a little kid.
Speaker 3:believe it or not, he starts with me. I tell it to our kids and not to get into the family aspect. But we also have a seven year old, a little Gavin, and just the other day I was sitting on the couch and he is just like he's, he's like copy paste to to to myself, and I was just sitting on the couch and I thought you know what I need to be speaking the things into him that I wish my parents spoke to me.
Speaker 1:I have amazing parents, by the way, right spoken to me.
Speaker 3:I have amazing parents, by the way, right, but. But you know, go back to like the five love languages. Mine is affirmations, gavin's totally is too. So the other day I looked him in the eyes and said, gavin, you know what I see you and I see all your hard work and I love what I see. And that little guy ran over to be seven years old and he was just crying, giving the biggest hug. And you know it's our job also to bring others with us on that journey and I think that that level of mindset and positive affirmations it starts in your family. It can't all be just about Jason or all about Chris.
Speaker 3:We are also the leaders of our households and that has to translate into our spouses, our children, everything else that we do.
Speaker 2:And, man, I tell you what kids will open your eyes to a lot of your shortcomings and make you realize things like that. Like we have a three-year-old right now and he's potty training and then things like that he's doing really well. But, you know, goal number two is still kind of and sorry, tmi for people listening, whatever, right, that's, that's the harder part. And so we've been working on it and he just yesterday went in there on his own, did his business, uh, and, you know, yelled for me to help him finish up and everything. And, um, I was super happy like dude, yeah, like I know how hard you've been working to try to get this right, right, right, like I'm so proud of you for working hard and doing this. And his little thank you, daddy, it was like like, just the way he said it, you could tell like, yeah, he was super happy, uh, and it was just a different thing and it's like that's like that's what he needs to hear and he's gonna write on that affirmation for the next 30 days right.
Speaker 2:Well, he did it again today. Yeah, he went in there on his own again today and I said the same thing and you know his response is the same. So it's like like the power of words you know in our's responsible to the same. So it's like like the power of words you know in our lives and others lives. You have to be really aware of that and you know where what you're saying to yourselves. Yes, because you know I I would use to be terrible at um, being negative on myself, right, and just words. I would say to myself, um, and it's, you know, it's got a lot better. Sometimes I'll still kind of kick myself and say something right to myself when I'm super frustrated, but like I knock it off or I come back and I'm like, hey, you know, get it next time, or you're right, kind of thing. So it's, it's super important right well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3:Words are seeds, right? Like what are you speaking over your life, right? Um, we, we both have a faith-based background. We know the power of the tongue, right? You know? The bible says there's these large ships, yet they're controlled by a little rudder, yeah, the tongue. The tongue is the little rudder of our, of our flesh, in this way, and man, it has the power to make or break your marriage, make or break your business, make or break so many things with the things that you let come out of your mouth, um, and you know, forbid you believe, some of the negative things that come out of your mouth, um as well.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, some people talk to themselves in a way that, if they, if, if you know the way I've talked to myself, if I someone saw someone talk to my wife that way, I would, I would be locked up because I would punch that person, right? But then why would I talk to myself that way? If I would let somebody talk to my spouse, or talk to me that way, for that matter. So you just have to get control of your thoughts. And again, not everything is sunshine and rainbows. You can't go that route as well, but you have to work into those positive affirmations Napoleon Hill does, the affirmation did in thinking we're rich every day in every way.
Speaker 2:I'm getting better and better.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, like, okay, you can say it over and over. You got, you have to believe it and everything else, which just becomes a rote, repetitive thing. But if you truly believe that you said it at the very beginning of this, learn one new thing a day. Back the analogy one foot in front of the other.
Speaker 2:Little base hit when it stopped looking for home runs. Load one thing, get one percent better every single day and let compound interest take off from there. Yeah, absolutely, and you know it's funny because, growing up, a movie I like to watch a lot was cool runnings yeah, of course I know cool runs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe the younger generation doesn't know cool runnings, but it's about the jamaican bobsled team, first one going to olympics, things like that. And there's a scene that there's a guy who doesn't have as much confidence. You know, one of the teammates needs to get his confidence up, so he makes a look in the mirror. He says what do you see? And he's like no, I see pride, I see power, I see a bad A-mutter who don't take no crap off of nobody, and he may keep repeating it right before he goes. And finally this guy stands up for himself and I like it's just a perfect scene and I love it.
Speaker 2:Good, you know things like that just making yourself, you know pumping yourself up. You know believe in yourself because you're, you're created, you know, with a purpose and a reason to be here. Uh, and a lot of times we, the world, misses out on a lot of greatness, a lot of beauty, a lot of you potential, because we allow the world, we allow ourselves to talk us down so so that we don't live into. You know what we created to do, so true.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, you're, you're exactly right. The power um of our words and whether that is just having some, some phrases you go back to. You know a favorite of mine. Back to the book thing go rich. And hopefully by now everyone realizes we've mentioned the book a million times. They probably will grab a copy if they haven't already. Written in 1937, still just as relevant here today. But Napoleon Hill says the one thing he found interviewing all these successful people this is Edison, carnegie, rockefeller, like the Vanderbilt, these types of people they had this idea that in every adversity there's the seed of a greater advantage but it's just a seed, like what is a seed?
Speaker 3:Well, a seed is nothing unless I put in good soil and then water it and give it some sun, and bring it in when it's too cold and make sure it gets out in the sun in the summertime and springtime, and you have to really kind of baby that thing. So next time you hit that speed bump, next time you hit that wall, you can say, okay, where's the advantage here? It may not be clear to you, but maybe it's advantageous that I was too tall to be a military pilot and didn't want to go be an airline pilot. All these different things all work together to get you on your path.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I love that analogy too. So being a country boy here in Indiana know doing a garden and things like that with plants, like there comes a point where weeds will come up and you have to get rid of the weeds, and sometimes you have to be careful because the weeds roots are tied up in the plants roots, so you have to gentle a little bit to separate that. Uh, and on top of that too, you also have to prune the plant. Yes, you don't prune some of the branches, you'll get less fruit, it'll get sick, um, do the airflow and things like that. But you actually have to take part of the actual vegetable fruit, uh crop that you're trying to produce and you have to take branches away, which in reality hurts the plant on a small scale and has to heal and scab over. But future, wise, yes, it creates a more it's short-term pain for long-term benefit.
Speaker 3:The pruning analogy is absolutely perfect. And back to our first conversation about friends and stuff. Sometimes you've got to prune that friend group. Sometimes you're going to grow beyond them or whatever that may be, whatever that looks like like some of these friends aren't going to grow beyond them or whatever that may be, whatever that looks like like some of these friends aren't going to go the entire journey, um, with you. Uh, back to back to Jim Collins. Good to great, he says it's. You have to get the right people on the right bus heading the right direction. And sometimes there's bus stops and people are going to get off that bus, right, and go find another bus, and that is fine. Um, sometimes you have to prune those relationships as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to prune those suckers, because all they do is just suck the energy out of the plant and take from the ultimate growth, and so, yeah, you got to watch out for those. But you know, jason, this has been fantastic. I've really enjoyed this conversation. I think you have a lot of great value to people. I know you've got something big coming up. I'd love you to share real quick about Moolah Sure, what that is and where people can find you if they want to learn more. Just connect with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely so. As I shared, we exited the aviation business after, you know, 16 years of doing it, from those hardships I told you, to a very advantageous exit. I'll leave it at that. We're using that, those funds, to bootstrap the next business, which is Moolah. And it all comes back to knowledge. Right, we were teaching people to fly. Now we're teaching people to steward their finances. Why does the 30-year-old firefighter have more month than they have money, right? So giving people the financial intelligence, the financial wisdom to really understand People believe there's plenty of money myths out there as well.
Speaker 3:People believe the system's rigged against them. All this stuff. We know that's not true. It just takes a little bit of knowledge and applying that knowledge. So MooLaw is a full-on savings investing platform as well. You can check it out, all app-based. The website is moola, so moolaw, moolaw. And they can find us across social media, from tiktok all the way up through youtube if you want to see some of those educational videos we're putting out. It is a moolah copilot, so they can find how to work the aviation analogy in there. And now copilot's like that cool ai phrase to use. Like you know, I guess we got lucky there, uh, so moolah copilot across the board. They can find us there and then in whatever, whatever app store as well, to get saved and get invested and get that financial intelligence that people really need.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, yeah, so everybody make sure you go get connected with Jason, check out Moolah. I'm excited for it coming out and so, yeah, jason again, thanks so much for being on the LVMU podcast today.
Speaker 3:Appreciate you, Chris. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:I'll see you Absolutely and, guys, make sure you share with us, with someone who could use a better mindset or someone who's you know, getting in their business starting out, because we can help more people by sharing this, and so do that and continue to go out there, elevate your life, elevate your business and we'll talk to you again soon. Thank you for listening to the Elevate Media podcast. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a review. See you in the next episode.
